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So, I changed my mind and deleted my account. It took some serious work to do, because of the sideblog, though. I managed to find out how to transfer it to a new account, and then found a really neat hack to make it almost like a primary blog. I just have to be mindful of hyphens when using that blog, but it’s over in its own place now, with its own dash that’s largely free of the kind of crap I’ve been sick of for a while. 

And I wasn’t even going to delete the blog at first, until I got some fresh, brand new perspective on why it was pissing me off so much. The only actual interaction I’ve had in the last month has been a string of anon hate that was getting more and more outrageous. Then I made the earlier post today about being fed up with Tumblr, and THAT was what it took to get any response from anybody. And that response was largely “stop complaining.”  A few people mentioned that they saw the anon posts, and asked what they could say to change my mind, but at that point, my mind was already made up. But it actually pissed me off, and I can’t believe how angry it made me. I make post after post after post trying to get people to talk to me, throwing my Skype info out there and reaching out to other people to start conversations, and nobody cares to respond until after I finally say how fed up I am with being ignored. Honestly, if 1000 people are following me, and none of them care about me until I say I’m quitting, then I want to know why the were following me to begin with. Because it certainly wasn’t anything to do with me.  Oh no, they’ll lose out on a few reblogs that everyone else has also reblogged. 

I mean. There are a few people who would respond, and they all know I’ve hated Tumblr from day one. Leaving the site wasn’t done in a move to punish or guilt anybody, but to keep me from making these screaming into the void posts, and then spending hours refreshing my dash and hoping people would have responded this time. If I’m that desperate for social interaction, then it’s time to make some changes, and getting rid of the biggest cause of my own insecurity is part of that. I know nobody will follow me over here from Tumblr, because I no nobody cares enough to bother setting up an account. But knowing I don’t have any followers makes not getting any feedback a foregone conclusion. It’s a lot less like screaming into a void, and more like just writing my thoughts down in a journal.  For similar reasons, I’m considering stopping my posts to AO3 and going back to drawer fic. I can see the 400+ subscribers to my fic. I can also see how there aren’t even close to that many people commenting. I don’t write for the comments, but it still hurts to know that this many people think so little of what I’m writing that they can’t even bother to say “good job.”  I was talking to a friend, and I think she’s absolutely right in her idea that AO3 is just as much to blame for the death of comment culture as Tumblr is, because they made it acceptable to “like” fics. Suddenly, you didn’t have to leave a comment on an LJ page and talk to that scary, scary author. And wherever the idea that authors are inherently scary comes from, I’d like to kick it. I am not the only person noticing this stuff lately, nor am I the only person to finally get fed up with it. I’ve got better things to do with my time than trying to beg interaction out of people half my age. So the tumblr’ gone. AO3 may be soon to follow. 

Date: 2016-03-08 12:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] in_the_bottle
I never really post anything original on tumblr, its just reblog of pictures. AO3, I tend to treat it as an archive than a platform for social interaction. I know I haven't commented on your fics lately, that's cos I've been waiting for Midgard Legends to finish before finis reading the rest of it.

I really don't understand tumblr at all, TBH.

Date: 2016-03-16 09:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] in_the_bottle
For a while I had no idea where you went! I wasn't really paying attention to LJ/DW for a bit last year due to RL being shitty, then you seemingly disappeared. I still see the updates on AO3, so I knew you were around, just didn't know you moved to Wordpress, so I'm glad you're crossposting now to DW as well. I only use Wordpress for my RL travel blogging instead of fannish stuff, which are kept on LJ/DW.

Date: 2016-03-08 05:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
"AO3, I tend to treat it as an archive than a platform for social interaction."

I use A03 the same way.

Date: 2016-03-08 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] realpestilence
I've ~always thought A03 was largely responsible for the decreasing interaction between readers and writers, and among bloggers in general. It definitely didn't help that LJ has had so many problems over the last few years, after being taken over by Our Russian Overlords. Nor does it help that forums like Facebook, Pinterest and twitter have become so popular, with their easy "like" options.

A03 has helped kill off many of the little websites that had older fics in established fandoms posted, imo. I use the archive, because that's where the fics are massed; but I don't entirely care for the way it's organized. I don't like not being able to delete or edit my comments the way I can on LJ and similar blogs, either.


I've had the reverse experience as yours-I was used to generating long involved discussions and offering prompts/world-building ideas and pointing out what works and doesn't work for me in a fic, back in my early fandom days. I was often by various writers how helpful it was, having someone to bounce ideas off of, because that's what we did then. I've found fewer people who care for that any more, and that was how I originally made so many of my on-line friends.


I miss the photography, art, and book comms that used to be so active. They're all huge casualties from our collectively decreased interaction, too.


You are perfectly entitled to do whatever the hell you want with your tumblr account or anything else. I've found fandom behavior on tumblr to be very toxic, because that's where most of the assholes who used to be on lj seem to have migrated, and who needs that?

Date: 2016-03-08 05:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
In fandom I had the most fun joining one of the challenge communities. avland is on hiatus now, but it was fun creating all sorts of fan works and working with a team. Though, I don't think there was much discussion necessarily, but I was able to interact with other Marvel fans and met new people, which was nice.

Date: 2016-03-08 06:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
omg, that sounds like the worst challenge ever! On avland, we had a tarot card graphics challenge and there was an alternate way to earn the same amount of points for those who may not be comfortable with the occult. None of the story challenges on avland forced anyone to write anything they weren't comfortable with and for exchanges we were never paired with someone who wanted slash with someone who would only write gen. It seems like common sense to me that for everyone to enjoy the challenge people needed their wishes respected and options.

Date: 2016-03-08 05:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
"I've had the reverse experience as yours-I was used to generating long involved discussions and offering prompts/world-building ideas and pointing out what works and doesn't work for me in a fic, back in my early fandom days."

I miss those days. It was much fun to work on stories and have discussions and it was okay to point out what didn't quite work for me in a fic. Nowadays, I don't see those discussions anymore and if I do it's normally followed by a whole bunch of wank...

Date: 2016-03-08 05:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
It sounds like you're making a good decision to leave Tumblr, it sounds like it brought you nothing but unhappiness and life is too short to waste time on something you're not enjoying.

Though, I do ask you reconsider A03, I love your stories and would be unable to read them if they weren't hosted on an archive. For the record, I'm still waiting for two of your stories to finish before I begin reading them and you probably haven't heard from me via A03 because I don't tend to hound authors for updates. I'm also wondering if the het/gen fans in Marvel just leave less feedback overall?

For the record, I don't talk much with authors via their stories because I've had some very bad experiences, like ending up in fanwank bad experiences. I used to leave all sorts of feedback, if I tried a story and gave up half way through I'd let the author know, if I loved a story I'd wax poetic about it, but man some authors went WWIII on me when my review wasn't positive enough because I left a sentence in the feedback saying the lack of conflict in the story made parts of it hard to get through. Lately it feels as though you're not allowed to be yourself online anymore. Once everyone went to journals it was all over in terms of meeting people and being yourself. I can see why so many people are happy they don't have to think about how to say they liked a story, by hitting a button.

It feels like all communication has to be positive or nothing, or you need permission to express yourself fully. After a while it just feels like too much work to put yourself out there, or figure out if what I wrote is "nice enough." I've become much more anxious about meeting new with people in fandom through journals/A03 writing isn't my strong suite, and I tend to say things that people take the wrong way.

Having said that I've left thousands of comments in the last 14, after a while there are only so many ways you can say "I liked your story." For short stories I use the like button for longer stories I leave a comment because I figured if the author is willing to write more than 5k words I should at least be wiling to give them a sentence or two of appreciation.

But I'm now pickier on leaving feedback because I'm only giving positive feedback so the story has to be at least 80% solid in storytelling before I'll leave feedback. Otherwise, it's just annoying that I can't give the author constructive criticism.

I've also noticed most people use the like button when the story has some major porn, kink, or squicks. I think people are embarrassed to admit online that they liked hardcore underage porn or something...so they use the like button. But yeah, fans have been talking about feedback and commenting for over a decade now, all in all I think what we have now is better, though the social mores have completely changed since I joined fandom.

Sorry this turned into such a long post...

Date: 2016-03-08 06:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
In calibre I have a column for reviews and kudos with stories downloaded and there are some stories out there with over 5k reviews and 20k kudos. The sad part is they aren't always the good stories...But someone liked them.

Teen Wolf is an active commenting fandom some subsets of Marvel are better about reviewing than others. You're writing mostly het and gen, which isn't nearly as active as the slash fandom. I know a lot of slash readers who won't tough gen with a 10 foot pole. If you were writing femslash your numbers would be lower. Fanfiction.net people leave reviews for everything. Harry Potter is a great fandom if you want reviews, and you'd need to crosspost to fanfiction.net. I should post my finding... I think when the individual fandom archives died away it made it harder for fans of specific ships to find each other.

I admire your efforts in trying to use tumblr for fic, I took one look at it and said no thanks. I tend to look at puppies, otters, pandas, and politics on my tumblr. It's almost impossible to comment if you like something and finding the true source materials is a nightmare.

Date: 2016-03-08 06:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I think a person can drive themselves nuts trying to figure out trends and what will be popular at any given time.

For myself, I focus on what I enjoy and try not to let what others think impact me. I'm still working on my graphics/wallpapers. The feedback for me is like the icing on the cake.

Date: 2016-03-08 06:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I see what you're saying and you have a good point. I did create those wallpapers initially as part of my participation on the avland community.

People do tend to feel creative when they have people to bounce ideas off of and share what they've created, which in turn inspires other people to create their own works. Maybe with all the different platforms for fans it's become more fractured as time has gone by. I've seen discussions on Goodreads and Deviantart and those aren't necessarily where the fic community would think to look for fellow fans but they are there. I've also meet fellow fans on the MobileRead forums. but it's a lot of work to hop all over the internet trying to find fans who are active.

Date: 2016-03-09 05:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I mostly use Goodreads to rate stories I've already read, find new stories and read the reviews and discussions. I like that people can make "book lists" of fan fiction stories. I go through the themed lists now and then. As a reader I kind of wish there was a Goodreads for fandom, as an author I'm a bit worried to see what people would say about my own fics there, so I've never searched.

Date: 2016-03-09 05:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I don't plan on locking my fic, but truly the odds of any of my stories ending up on Goodreads is rather slim, people seem to pick the novel length stories they actually liked to put on the site...

Date: 2016-03-09 06:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
There are so many good reasons to lock fic. I remember seeing the reactions of everyone on my flist when the news of this teacher's assignment came out. Boy were there a lot of unhappy people...

Date: 2016-03-08 06:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
"fandom is swinging back the other direction to frothing vitriol over whether or not a character is written as a virgin."

That's hilarious! Are they really?

I think for myself I just want the freedom to say "your story needs some sort of conflict for your characters to handle." I tend to notice pacing issues and structural problems in fics more than anything else. I can handle typos, bad grammar, and etc if the characters feel real and the conflict has me on the edge of my seat.

"Oh, totally. If I post anything with a sex scene in it, no matter how fleeting, the comment count for that chapter will drop by at least half. I actually almost miss when it was totally acceptable to let the author know how you got off to their freaky weird plant porn, or whatever. "

hehe, I let the authors know that I loved their cave dwelling tentacle monster and I've re-read the story a hundred times. But I have no shame and I'm hoping my flattery will encourage the writer to write more of that. Or it may scare them away...the hard part is not going overboard.

I love darkfic and angst and it's so hard to find partner abuse stories with happy endings. I troll the themed rec lists but and occasionally I come across stuff that hits all my buttons, but those stories are few and far between. Some fandoms tend to have darker fics like Supernatural has all the domestic violence type fics back when Sam/Dean were the primary pairing. I'm not sure what the fandom looks like for Dean/Castiel shippers.

Date: 2016-03-08 07:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
"It seems like every time a character finds themselves attracted to a member of the same sex, even as an adult who's had decades in a comfortable viewpoint about themselves and the world around them, it's always super cool and okay and now they're off to go rally for gay rights."

I think I've only read 2 stories in my entire fandom life that truly explored how hard it was to accept that they were gay and what it meant. I'd like to see a few more because I don't buy that people can change that quickly. Though some characters I can see it but for Daredevil slash...I'd need more convincing. The guy was raised by priests and nuns.

As for endings, I've been blindsided by sudden character deaths endings enough that I am okay if the ending is too tidy. It could have been worse...

Date: 2016-03-09 05:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I'll have to check out Hot Fuzz... :)

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